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From the set of the new movie. From Left:
White Dude who is a god, Rich White Dude, Unfrozen White Dude, White Dude who turns green.
The third one I can remember — and at least two different people pitched this at two different times — was an idea that never got as far as an official title, but it was essentially “Black Avengers.” It was “Let’s put all the African or African-American heroes together on a team for an adventure,” and in those cases too, there was nothing about the idea beyond “It’s a bunch of super heroes together” that said “Avengers” beyond the fact that “Avengers” is a term that’s salable. I think there’s something very specific about what “Avengers” means to the Marvel Universe. They’re the varsity. They’re the A-list. They’re the Man. They’re not about being super heroes because of demographics or ethnicity. They stand for something specific and occupy a certain role. If you don’t have some degree of that, then it doesn’t feel like Avengers.
First, isn’t the very concept of the Avengers “a bunch of superheroes together?”
Second, if being an Avenger is not about ethnicity then how come you don’t have more POC as Avengers? How can it be a contrivance to have one bunch of superheroes to come together and not another? There was some good discussion about this by @sonofbaldwin on Twitter.
Characters aren’t born A-list. And you don’t get A-list characters by limiting them and putting them in only certain books. You find good writers and you let them write them and then let the audience decide who is A-list.
It’s tiring to hear the same things said over and over again about race in comics.
Someone said today that it was a “gradual process. Luke Cage is well on his way to becoming iconic.” Luke Cage debuted in comics 9 years after Tony Stark. How long does he have to wait? Where’s his chair?